Kes ([info]19_99) wrote,
@ 2007-11-05 02:34:00
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University of Delaware and racism
I know a lot of you keep up with the news and politics and the rights we have as citizens of this country etc. I'm sure some of you (those of you who don't avoid Fox) may have heard about University of Delaware's "Forced diversity program" or whatever they're calling it. The article that started all the hype

I think this is crazy, and I think it's even crazier after speaking with my RA friend at UDel.



So, first of all, because this is so crazy, my friend was told not to talk about it, so he'll just be called my friend. From what I understand by what my friend says, this is all crap. Also, this has resulted in the abolition of RA one-on-ones and diversity programs and some crazy death threats mostly by white supremacists. Which are apparently still coming.

So, to begin: the words "[a] racist is one who is both privileged and socialized on the basis of race by a white supremacist (racist) system. The term applies to all white people (i.e., people of European descent) living in the United States, regardless of class, gender, religion, culture or sexuality.” are not from the University itself. A speaker came to the RA training to teach them more about racism. These are not the beliefs of the University. This is the belief of a guest lecturer. And yes, this was something the RAs had to attend, but they were not forced to agree, and this was not the University's definition. (The speaker's document. | The speaker's website)

Second: The awkward "When did you first discover your sexual identity" question is only asked in the community that is specifically focused on diversity. And this question is not like "When did you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour" as said here. This is because everyone has a sexual identity (be it gay, bi, questioning, non sexual, straight etc.) and it makes people realise that this is a question they are probably not faced with every day. This does not make these people adopt any ideology. This does not make people accept homosexuality or think they are a bad person for being straight. RAs are told to respect a person's comfort zone, and while yes, they are asked to assess the success of the interview, the success is not based on the person's views, rather the person's willingness to discuss their views.

Third: Some RAs are overzealous. This is not the fault of the school, nor does it reflect the view of every RA. Some RAs have used the words "mandatory" and "required" for attendance to diversity programs, this was not the policy of the university, and technically they were not even allowed to require attendance for those types of things (though they were to highly encourage them, they're also supposed to highly encourage academic and all other programs they provide).

I'm leaving my own opinions out of this as much as I can, even though I want to state them here, I just want you guys to know what I've been told by an RA from UDel not a conservative student who cared to speak on the issue (like what Fox asked for and got*


*Bill Rivers doesn't make very much sense on that video clip in terms of knowing English or speaking publicly, so I'm going to discount his report since he contradicts himself several times in explaining the marshmallow game (he says students take a marshmallow if a statement is true, such as being afraid to walk in the dark alone (more likely for female or racially/sexually harassed students) and then saying the white males have no marshmallows left in the end, or when he says a dialogue is encouraged in the end and then saying he has to stay mute)).


I'm leaving this post unlocked, if anyone wants to use this as reference or link it to other people, please do, from what's here, it looks like UDel is being judged pretty unfairly.




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[info]wottie
2007-11-05 09:00 am UTC (link)
This actually sickens me.

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[info]wottie
2007-11-05 09:04 am UTC (link)
Eh, in case that wasn't clear, I meant what was in the article - which is just crazy - and the whole faking thing, which is even more crazy and these issues shouldn't be so screwed up, if that makes sense.

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[info]19_99
2007-11-05 09:40 am UTC (link)
I completely agree (which is why I felt I needed to write what I did, since I haven't seen very many people speak this side).

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[info]lea_hazel
2007-11-05 12:39 pm UTC (link)
This is how the straight (in the broader sense) person reacts when the Other invades its territory, demanding an end to thoughtlessness and willful ignorance.

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[info]19_99
2007-11-05 12:51 pm UTC (link)
Exactly. Whenever I see something like this I think of number 43 from this list which was based off a list of white privileges, and both assume the "I" is heterosexual, etc. etc. And all of that just sucks.

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[info]radio_intern
2007-11-05 02:00 pm UTC (link)
I would REALLY love to remind FIRE that, additionally, we've been "indoctrinated" by various social institutions since the day we were born. Isn't attending college / university a function of BREAKING those bits of indoctrination from the formative years? Receiving MORE information allows us the chance to make better-informed decisions on what we choose to believe or not believe. Receiving LESS information never allows us this.

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[info]19_99
2007-11-05 04:20 pm UTC (link)
I agree! And I think whoever it is from UDel that's been handling this makes a good point when he said that assuming attending a few programs with a different point of view is "indoctrinating" them is really underestimating the students.

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[info]glemsydoodles
2007-11-05 02:45 pm UTC (link)
"When did you first discover your sexual identity"
Er...never?

"When did you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour"
Which sounds suspiciously like the Baptist equivalent to confirmation. (My dad sometimes tells me how awkward it was for him to be 15 and people continually nudging him at church...he thought it was a stupid ritual.)

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[info]19_99
2007-11-05 04:03 pm UTC (link)
Boo. You know my point. And that's why I listed non-sexual as an option, you know.

And the Jesus thing was what the show was comparing it to, not what UDel was actually asking.

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[info]themis
2007-11-05 03:08 pm UTC (link)
God, people are stupid.

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[info]19_99
2007-11-05 11:40 pm UTC (link)
Indeed!

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[info]caitiedidit
2007-11-05 04:34 pm UTC (link)
I hadn't heard about any of this, as I avoid Fox for my own personal sanity. But it was incredibly interesting and it's always fascinating to see how Fox distorts their stories. Thanks for posting about this.

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[info]19_99
2007-11-05 11:40 pm UTC (link)
You were the one I was thinking of when I mentioned avoiding Fox. ^_^

I'm glad you were interested.

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[info]kungfoofengshui
2007-11-05 07:22 pm UTC (link)
RA's should be checked if they're being over zealous. I mean, they're ranked higher than students, so in effect, they represent the school more so than the students, and what they say can be perceived as the views of the university.
I think this whole diversity thing is pretty ridiculous (where I go, we have mandatory Diversity Workshops). I mean, I had to go to one and I thought it was the biggest waste of time.
Also, the beliefs of a guest lecturer can mirror the belief (or just the lazyness) of the University. I'm making a leap here, but if the University didn't say anything about the guest lecturer, then either a) the University has no problem with the Guest Lecturer teaching the RA's or b) the university wanted to give the impression that they're doing something to "diversify" their students. As to what was said, they didn't bother to say anything about it.
These are initial reactions, and I'll read more into this and actually watch the interview when I have the time. But if you guys think im dead wrong, please correct me.

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[info]19_99
2007-11-05 11:39 pm UTC (link)
RAs should be checked, but the whole university shouldn't be blamed on a few overzealous students. While companies (and in this case UDel) should be responsible for their employees, there is a line; they can't take responsibility for everything, especially if the RAs are not following the University's policy.

Yes, diversity things can be pretty silly, but so can everything else schools put people through (Alcohol Edu, campus familiarity workshops, etc.) there is a difference between thinking a workshop is a waste of time and thinking a workshop needs to be brought to the attention of a rights activist group.

In high school I attended a Junior Statesmen of America convention thing, and their guest speaker was a member of the local Communist party. This was a valid opinion the organisers of the event thought was worth hearing. They, however, were not Communists themselves, and accusing them of being Communists because of one speaker is just silly. This could easily parallel with UDel's situation. If an organisation has to agree with everything a guest speaker said (or any other speaker for that matter) there would be no guest speakers. Yes, the University probably did want their students to understand diversity and outside views on it, but this is not the same as having the university itself define all whites as inherently racist.

So yes, I disagree with quite a few of your points.

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